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Subject: Re: Honking Cabbies
2009-06-01 10:41
Paul, Great idea. I think the honking issue is one of the more under-addressed quality of life issu
Paul,

Great idea. I think the honking issue is one of the more
under-addressed quality of life issues out there today. Three years
ago the Times ran a "Suggestions for Mayor Bloomberg" and one reader
submitted what I think is a great idea regarding cab honking:

Suggestion: Counters should be installed in taxicab horns. Each month,
cabdrivers would pay for the number of times they honked (they might
be given a generous allowance of free honks for safety). The cost per
honk could be relatively low, maybe 50 cents. The knowledge that
disturbing the peace isn't entirely free might quiet the pointless use
of car horns, or at least raise some revenue. If the plan is a
success, it might be expanded to other vehicles in the city.
— Thomas Talbot, Upper West Side

Matthew W. Daus, chairman of the Taxi and Limousine Commission,
responded: "Hornhonking for any reason other than to warn of danger is
simply unacceptable, which is why it is singled out for mention in the
'Passenger Bill of Rights.' We definitely appreciate the highly
creative approaches to this issue, but continue to believe that the
best way to hold drivers appropriately accountable is to report
incidents by calling 311."

(you can view it here:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/01/08/nyregion/thecity/08featheds.html?n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes%20Topics%2FPeople%2FV%2FVandam%2C%20Jeff
)

Best,
Greg

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ethan Kent <ekent@...> wrote:
> This may be a project to combine the passions of the two Aarons that
> love to make noise about excessive noise.
>
> Aaron Friedman (CC'd )lead a successful campaign to reduce the use of
> Car Alarms.  http://www.silentmajorityny.org/
>
> He is busy through this month leading Make Music NY.
>
>
>
> Ethan Kent
> Vice President
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> Project for Public Spaces
> 700 Broadway New York, NY 10003
> T (212) 620-5660 x 318 F (212) 620-3821
> http://www.pps.org
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Naparstek [mailto:aaron@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:38 PM
> To: nycsr-discussion@...
> Subject: Re: [New York City Streets Renaissance discussion] Re: Honking
> Cabbies
>
> i didn't have a decibel meter on me but it sure sounded that way to me.
>
>
>
> On May 29, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Paul Chenard wrote:
>
>> I haven't had a chance to hear a London cab horn, are they
>> significantly lower
>> in decibels than their American cousin?
>>
>>
>> On 2009-05-29 12:37, Aaron Naparstek wrote:
>>> it's a great idea. the horns in london taxis would do just fine and
>>> it
>>> wouldn't take all that much work to modify these horns.
>>>
>>> i'd love to see someone do a sustained and organized advocacy effort
>>> at the TLC and in City Council on this issue. they will be highly
>>> resistant but this is very winnable. taxis are relatively easy to
>>> regulate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Paul Chenard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone. I've been pondering these days what we would need to do
>>>> in order to suppress the over use of car horns by cab drivers. As we
>>>> all know the threat of the $350 fine for honking has not been a
>>>> deterrent and in my opinion almost impossible to enforce, so I
>>>> propose looking into a car horn for our yellow cabs that isn't as
>>>> loud as the current ones. What do my fellow New Yorkers think of
>>>> this idea? What are your ideas about this issue and how should it be
>>>> addressed? Does anyone know of a horn or heard of a car horn that
>>>> isn't as loud. Does anyone know of any other cities that have
>>>> successfully addressed this issue?
>>>>
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