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From: Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. [mailto:mclarke@...]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:30 PM
To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
Subject: Re: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will meetwith
us
I particularly like the graphic in the Upper West Side blueprint showing
footprint for a person that commutes by walking, 2.6 square feet, and
footprint given to people who commute by car, 594 square feet. Now That is
good info! And 10% of residents in the upper west side commute by car. I
wonder what it is for our areas.
Also: 900,000 pounds of pollutants are spewed into Manhattan's air every day
by motorized vehicles.
There are so many pie charts. How did they get this data? Can we get data
like this? Is this something we ask Jackson or Schneiderman for funding
for? (BTW I have not heard back from Martha Demos / Schneiderman about a
meeting date)
And pages 30 -41 are a true works of art with the bike lane embedded at the
sides of the Broadway mall.
This is the kind of help we need. Everyone should look at this upper west
side document. I keep running into people who say they can help with
graphics or this or that, and then lose track of them.
At 11:15 AM 1/15/2010, you wrote:
Brad,
First and Second Avenues are one-way. As you can see from the
renderings at the Upper Green Side site:
http://www.uppergreenside.org/2010/01/15/nyc-dot-rolls-out-bus-and-bike-impr
ovements-for-east-side/
in simple terms, DOT proposes to put bike lane on the left side of the
street and the bus lane on the right side of the street.
As I mentioned in this morning's post, we don't have one-way avenues
in our neighborhood, so we can't just rubber-stamp the UES blueprint
on our neighborhood for our own advocacy.
I would prefer to have medians on the avenues, because it would cut
down on illegal U-turns. Something like Vanderbilt Avenue in Brooklyn
(Dean to Prospect), where there are left-turn bays in the median and
buffered bike lanes on both sides, might work on St. Nicholas, but the
M3 on St. Nick is much more frequent than the B69 on Vanderbilt.
I looked at the UWS renderings:
http://transalt.org/files/newsroom/reports/UWS_Blueprint.pdf
and I see what you mean about having the bike lanes on either side of
the median.
Cheers,
Jonathan
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Bradford D. Conover
<brad@...> wrote:
> 1st and 2nd ave also have busses and the concept being floated in CB 8 is
to
> try to work in protected bike lanes within a rapid bus line. How that can
be
> engineered, I do not know. DOT is studying idea. St Nich appears to me to
> have potential for something like that. Further south Broadway has a
center
> isle, see Upper Westside "Blueprint" proposal.
>
> I think the discussion should be clarified and then shelved for now. It
> makes no sense to continue to suggest specifics for protected bike lanes
in
> an advocacy effort with electeds if the group itself is not already
> interested and fully behind the concept. I was trying to discern if the
> group was behind the idea, but for strategy reasons did not want to raise
it
> now, or was not behind the idea. From the responses, I do not think it is
> behind the idea and that is fine.
>
> Personally, I believe that if biking is to ever become a mainstream,
> respected, and safe way to commute in NYC, protected bike lanes within the
> fabric of the city is a must, not just on the outskirts along the river.
As
> I commute 130 blocks south, I might still elect to ride along river, but
my
> interest was not just focused on my own best route but on encouraging safe
> biking everywhere in the city. It is a cheap, environmentally friendly
> transportation alternative. With all the road and sidewalk footage
devoted
> 100% to cars and peds, one bike lane running NS is not too much to ask,
and
> as this administration appears receptive, why not ask. Ultimately, it may
> mean some sacrifice and it would be a transformative change, not just
patch
> work maintenance Downtown, Brooklyn and both the upper West and Eastside
> CBs are behind that effort, at least for now. What, if anything, will
come
> of it we will see. However, if even the bike advocate group is not behind
> the concept, it will be a hard sell in Northern Manhattan.
>
> The same goes for the rapid bus protected lanes. Perhaps the pilot
projects
> scheduled for the City will need to be completed downtown before "Inwood
and
> Washington Heights" will get behind the idea. Hopefully when that happens,
> there will be a like minded city administration.
>
>
> Bradford D. Conover
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. [ mailto:mclarke@...
<mailto:mclarke@...> ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:45 PM
> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
> Subject: RE: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
meetwith
> us
>
> At 02:44 PM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
>
> On Broadway where there is a center median, I would not think a narrow 3
ft'
> bike lane going each way would add much to the existing congestion.
>
> But what would it do to the plantings in the median? That's another part
of
> our mission; I wouldn't want to see the greenery (or potential for same)
to
> be sacrificed. How wide are the travel lanes on each side? Is parking
> necessary? We really need some traffic counts...
>
> How much
> might come out of the median and what impact it would have on traffic
would,
> of course, need to be studied. On St Nich, as there are already bike
lanes,
> the lanes could be moved to the inside, rather than outside, of parked
cars
> without a significant impact on traffic, such as the protected lanes
> downtown.
>
> Bradford D. Conover
> Conover Law Offices
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Rabinowitz [ mailto:jonathan.rabinowitz@...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:18 PM
> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
> Subject: Re: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
meetwith
> us
>
> St Nick goes up to 193rd St, and then it meets Ft. George Hill, which
> connects with Nagle Avenue and Dyckman in Inwood. It has no center median,
> however, and it isn't part of Jackson's district north of 158th St.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D.
> <mclarke@...> wrote:
>> St. Nick is already a bike lane south of the hospital. How far north
>> does St. Nick even go?
>>
>> At 01:50 PM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> Based on traffic congestion, Broadway would be a poor option - St.
>> Nicholas is pretty clear, and Amsterdam would be a possibility, though
>> going all the way east, one might as well use the Harlem River path.
>>
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>> On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Bradford D. Conover wrote:
>>
>> That is something to discuss. I would think, ideally, if feasible, it
>> should be same avenue running the entire length of Manhattan. I do
>> not think CB7 has progressed enough so that we know what avenue will
>> end up with protected bike lanes to our south in CB7. We could reach
>> out to them for an update. That would need to connect through Harlem
>> as well. I believe Broadway center isle was part of the upper westside
> groups "Blueprint"
>> proposal.
>>
>> Based on my own observations in WH, I would think Broadway (on both
>> side of center isle) and Amsterdam (already has painted lanes both
>> ways) would both be candidates. However, I have not studied or lived
>> in area long enough to know best option. Right now, it is the Concept
>> that I am pushing. The proposed CB12 workshop would explore concrete
>> alternatives for location and type of protected lanes as well as other
>> traffic calming measures. And if the community was behind it,
>> ultimately it would be DOT that would probably dictate which avenue
>> and what type of protected lane. The Hudson Greenway is great, but
>> pushing the only protected bike lane to the outer edges of the city is
>> not really incorporating biking within the city as a viable means of
> commuting.
>>
>> Same for rapid bus service, I think the concept is important to drum
>> up support for and which avenue might best accommodate a rapid bus is
>> something to be explored.
>>
>>
>> Bradford D. Conover
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. [ mailto:mclarke@...]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:59 PM
>> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
>> Subject: RE: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
>> meetwith us
>>
>> What I mean is, which north south corridor, what arrangement on the
>> street, and which corridor for rapid transit.
>>
>> At 12:43 PM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> I am suggesting that we get CB12, and the local politicians, including
>> Jackson, to support the same kind of motions that both CB 7 and CB 8
>> passed recently asking DOT to study the feasibility of a protected
>> bike lane on a N/S ave. (CB8 also asked that the bike lanes be
>> incorporated in rapid bus transit plans for 1st and 2nd ave.).
>> I have raised this with CB12 Trans comm and reported on it in other
> emails.
>>
>>
>> Bradford D. Conover
>> ________________________________
>> From: Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. [ mailto:mclarke@...]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:05 PM
>> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
>> Subject: RE: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
>> meetwith us
>>
>>
>> Can you be more specific about what you're asking for?
>>
>> At 11:19 AM 1/14/2010, Bradford D. Conover wrote:
>>
>> There is a section in Dist 7 that covers Broadway, so I would think
>> Jackson's support would be necessary eventually, particularly if the
>> upper Westside proposal to DOT ultimately selects Broadway as the
>> location for the protected lane. I am not sure it needs to be specific
>> at this stage, just find out where he stands on the issue, and if he
>> opposes, why? The idea is to plant and reinforce the seed, that this
>> is the direction many CBs in NYC are headed and that a bike lane to be
>> effective needs to be a complete network. If DOT moves forward with
>> such improvements enhancing the livability (and market value) of other
>> neighborhoods, CB12 should not be left out. I also think an express
>> bus running n/s in a protected lane on Westside is an idea which
>> should be encouraged, particularly in view of DOT's planned one year
>> shut down of the no 1 subway for major repairs. The issue of bus
>> congestion at the end of the line, is a related, but separate issue.
>>
>>
>> Bradford D. Conover
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Rabinowitz [ mailto:jonathan.rabinowitz@...]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:34 AM
>> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
>> Subject: Re: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
>> meetwith us
>>
>> Brad, look at Jackson's district at this site:
>> http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/
>>
>> Use the "show additional data on map" feature to see the city council
>> districts. The seventh (Jackson's) district's EASTERN boundary between
>> 178th St and 170th St is Haven Ave. It's a shame, but Jackson will
>> likely just punt to Ydanis on your proposal as it covers Washington
> Heights.
>>
>> District 7 does cover Broadway between 159th and 125th however
>>
>> Rita, do you have a bicycle educator in mind?
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bradford D. Conover
>> <brad@...>
>> wrote:
>>> Unless I am misreading them, except for crosswalk, the proposals
>>> relate mostly to Inwood. How about his participation/support and/or
>>> hosting of the traffic calming workshop in spring with CB12 to
>>> consider asking DOT to study/construct a protected bike lane on an
>>> avenue running N/S to connect WH/Inwood to proposed bike lane on
>> avenues on upper west side?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. [ mailto:mclarke@...]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:36 PM
>>> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
>>> Subject: Re: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Robt Jackson will
>>> meetwith us
>>>
>>> Looks like a good list. Let's get a little more specific on some.
>>> What repairs on the Greenway? What exactly are we asking him to do
>>> about the summertime auto rallies? Also, I think we want a couple of
>>> speed bumps on Dyckman west of Henshaw.
>>>
>>> At 11:13 AM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
>>>
>>> So there we go!
>>>
>>> 1. Build a separated bike lane along RSD between Dyckman St (RING
>>> Garden) and the N-bound onramp to the highway as part of the DGC;
>>>
>>> 2. Fix the perennial crummy condition of pavement on Broadway with
>>> concrete;
>>>
>>> 3. Ensure access to the Henry Hudson Bridge bike path;
>>>
>>> 4. End the summertime auto rallies on Dyckman St near the Marina;
>>>
>>> 5. Repair the Greenway between West 181st St and Dyckman St;
>>>
>>> 6. Add a crosswalk on Bennett St. at the IND 190th St Station.
>>>
>>> Anything else?
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D.
>>> <mclarke@... > wrote:
>>>> The only hitch is that Jackson's district is northeast of Broadway
>>>> and doesn't cover Dyckman between Broadway and Nagle. Ydanis
>>>> Rodriguez has the rest. IIRC, the Greenway connector should go along
>>>> RSD between the RING Garden and the Greenway, yes?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Riverside Drive is often forgotten, but it is a speedway and
>>>> part of the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Things on Jackson's side of the neighborhood include the Bx12 idling
>>>> on Isham St,
>>>>
>>>> I thought that was east of Broadway.
>>>>
>>>> the auto rallies held on Dyckman near the marina, access to the
>>>> Henry Hudson Bridge bike path, the crummy condition of the Greenway
>>>> between West 181st and Dyckman, and the lack of a crosswalk on
>>>> Bennett St at the 190th St IND station.
>>>>
>>>> yes and the crummy condition of Broadway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Aaron Wolfe <aaronewolfe@...
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Let's make sure he knows about all of our goals, but I think we
>>>>> should focus on the Dyckman connector because of the momentum that
>>>>> project seems to be gaining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Jonathan Rabinowitz <
>>>>> jonathan.rabinowitz@...> wrote:
>>>>>> Dr. Clarke,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would have responded earlier were I living in Jackson's district.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest meeting him in February. That gives us an entire month
>>>>>> to get the word out, and we can set the agenda at the January
>>>>>> meeting (Tuesday 19th, at the yoga studio).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D.
>>>>>> <mclarke@... > wrote:
>>>>>>> Good question. I'm stymied at the lack of response (other than
>> yours).
>>>>>>> My first thought is to have our meeting start 45 minutes before
>>>>>>> we tell him to show up, but we also need to have a decent showing.
>>>>>>> How do we do this other than make phone calls. But we don't have
>>>>>>> phone numbers. We need to get this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 07:52 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, when?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> <mclarke@... > wrote:
>>>>>>> A quick note on my way out (again). Ran into Robert Jackson at
>>>>>>> RING this morning (our electronics recycling day, which he
>>>>>>> sponsored) and I said we want to meet with him, do we need an
>>>>>>> appt on a Friday. He said he'd come to meet us wherever we meet.
>>>>>>> Let's set up a time. So we need to get our "asks" in a row and
>>>>>>> get this going!
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