Bad News - CB12 voting AGAIN on Vida Mexicana restaurant - July 7
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Maggie Clarke
Subject: Bad News - CB12 voting AGAIN on Vida Mexicana restaurant -
July 7
2009-07-01 11:34
Just found out that when the Community Board votes on something, even
unanimously, it means nothing.
The economic development committee has Vida Mexicana on their agenda for next week's meeting - TUESDAY, July 7, at 7pm at the CB office - 711 W 168 St. Just two days after the July 4 weekend, and 2 months after this unanimous vote, one could argue that something fishy is going on. In any event, if legions of people do Not show up for this committee meeting, they may go ahead and vote again and reverse it.
The following (which should be put in our files area) is a quote from the law of reasons we can use (and that the Liquor authority will listen to) for opposing a liquor license for this restaurant:
Action items for us can include (not limited to)
1. appearing and speaking at the July 7 meeting
2. asking our Councilmember and Assemblymember to appear and speak against the license at the meeting
3. spreading the word to our networks and asking them to attend and speak
Recommended viewing for the 21st century: www.storyofstuff.com
Maggie Clarke, Ph.D.
www.MaggieClarkeEnvironmental.com
Environmental Scientist, Educator
mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu
New York City
The economic development committee has Vida Mexicana on their agenda for next week's meeting - TUESDAY, July 7, at 7pm at the CB office - 711 W 168 St. Just two days after the July 4 weekend, and 2 months after this unanimous vote, one could argue that something fishy is going on. In any event, if legions of people do Not show up for this committee meeting, they may go ahead and vote again and reverse it.
The following (which should be put in our files area) is a quote from the law of reasons we can use (and that the Liquor authority will listen to) for opposing a liquor license for this restaurant:
6-a. The authority may consider any or all of the following in
determining whether public convenience and advantage and the public
interest will be promoted by the granting of licenses and permits for
the sale of alcoholic beverages at a particular unlicensed location:
(a) The number, classes and character of licenses in proximity to the
location and in the particular municipality or subdivision thereof.
(b) Evidence that all necessary licenses and permits have been
obtained from the state and all other governing bodies.
(c) Effect of the grant of the license on vehicular traffic and
parking in proximity to the location.
(d) The existing noise level at the location and any increase in noise
level that would be generated by the proposed premises.
(e) The history of liquor violations and reported criminal activity at
the proposed premises.
(f) Any other factors specified by law or regulation that are relevant
to determine the public convenience and advantage and public interest of
the community.
Section 64, 6-a of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS
Action items for us can include (not limited to)
1. appearing and speaking at the July 7 meeting
2. asking our Councilmember and Assemblymember to appear and speak against the license at the meeting
3. spreading the word to our networks and asking them to attend and speak
Recommended viewing for the 21st century: www.storyofstuff.com
Maggie Clarke, Ph.D.
www.MaggieClarkeEnvironmental.com
Environmental Scientist, Educator
mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu
New York City
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Jonathan
Subject: Re: Bad News - CB12 voting AGAIN
on Vida Mexicana restaurant - July 7
2009-07-01 12:23
Dr. Clarke, Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have in Upper Manhattan? Jonathan On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Marjorie J. Clarke,
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Ph.D.<mclarke@...> wrote: > Just found out that when the Community Board votes on something, even > unanimously, it means nothing. > > The economic development committee has Vida Mexicana on their agenda for > next week's meeting - TUESDAY, July 7, at 7pm at the CB office - 711 W 168 > St. Just two days after the July 4 weekend, and 2 months after this > unanimous vote, one could argue that something fishy is going on. In any > event, if legions of people do Not show up for this committee meeting, they > may go ahead and vote again and reverse it. > > The following (which should be put in our files area) is a quote from the > law of reasons we can use (and that the Liquor authority will listen to) for > opposing a liquor license for this restaurant: > > 6-a. The authority may consider any or all of the following in > determining whether public convenience and advantage and the public > interest will be promoted by the granting of licenses and permits for > the sale of alcoholic beverages at a particular unlicensed location: > (a) The number, classes and character of licenses in proximity to the > location and in the particular municipality or subdivision thereof. > (b) Evidence that all necessary licenses and permits have been > obtained from the state and all other governing bodies. > (c) Effect of the grant of the license on vehicular traffic and > parking in proximity to the location. > (d) The existing noise level at the location and any increase in noise > level that would be generated by the proposed premises. > (e) The history of liquor violations and reported criminal activity at > the proposed premises. > (f) Any other factors specified by law or regulation that are relevant > to determine the public convenience and advantage and public interest of > the community. > > Section 64, 6-a of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law > http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS > > Action items for us can include (not limited to) > > 1. appearing and speaking at the July 7 meeting > 2. asking our Councilmember and Assemblymember to appear and speak against > the license at the meeting > 3. spreading the word to our networks and asking them to attend and speak > > > Recommended viewing for the 21st century: www.storyofstuff.com > > > Maggie Clarke, Ph.D. > www.MaggieClarkeEnvironmental.com > Environmental Scientist, Educator > mclarke@... > New York City > > -- > Archive: http://www.livablestreets.com/[…]/1246462444039 > To unsubscribe send an email with subject "unsubscribe" to > inwood-livable-streets-discussion@.... Please contact > inwood-livable-streets-discussion-manager@... for > questions. > -- Jonathan Rabinowitz ====================== Now back at work! jonathan.rabinowitz@... cell 19177471086 ======================= "Freedom means the opportunity to be what we never thought we would be." -Daniel J. Boorstin
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velodromedary
Subject: the manana republic of Upper Manhattan
2009-07-01 13:07
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Jonathan Rabinowitz wrote:
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> Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the > spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have > in Upper Manhattan?
If there is a major change in the question, such as dramatic new information, it could justify re-hearing an issue. Otherwise, most organizations that use Robert's Rules of Order would first require a 2/3 vote on the question of whether to put the item on the agenda, since the previous majority decision is in effect being reversed. I don't know what parliamentary authority is used by the Community Board but it probably has something similar, since this is a basic principle for deliberative bodies. -- Ed
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Maggie Clarke
Subject: Re: the manana republic of
Upper Manhattan
2009-07-17 00:26
At the Economic Development CB12 meeting a couple of weeks ago, they did
indeed discuss the same restaurant again, but because the 34th precinct
did not provide enough information (other than having called Dyckman a
bar strip with a concentration of liquor licenses in the 2 block
stretch), they tabled it !
At 01:06 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:
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www.MaggieClarkeEnvironmental.com
Environmental Scientist, Educator
mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu
New York City
At 01:06 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Jonathan Rabinowitz wrote:
> Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the
> spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have
> in Upper Manhattan?
If there is a major change in the question, such as dramatic new
information, it could justify re-hearing an issue.
Otherwise, most organizations that use Robert's Rules of Order would
first require a 2/3 vote on the question of whether to put the item
on the agenda, since the previous majority decision is in effect
being reversed.
I don't know what parliamentary authority is used by the Community Board
but it probably has something similar, since this is a basic principle
for deliberative bodies.
-- Ed
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Rita L. McKee
Subject: Re: the manana republic of Upper Manhattan
2009-07-17 01:42
FYI the next meeting is Tues July 29.
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Rita L. McKee
447 Fort Washington Avenue
Suite 63
New York, NY 10033
917.526.0050
_________________________
Principal,
RLM Marketing & Advertising
Member,
Community Board 12/Manhattan
At the Economic Development CB12 meeting a couple of weeks ago, they did indeed discuss the same restaurant again, but because the 34th precinct did not provide enough information (other than having called Dyckman a bar strip with a concentration of liquor licenses in the 2 block stretch), they tabled it !
At 01:06 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Jonathan Rabinowitz wrote:
> Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the
> spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have
> in Upper Manhattan?
If there is a major change in the question, such as dramatic new
information, it could justify re-hearing an issue.
Otherwise, most organizations that use Robert's Rules of Order would
first require a 2/3 vote on the question of whether to put the item
on the agenda, since the previous majority decision is in effect
being reversed.
I don't know what parliamentary authority is used by the Community Board
but it probably has something similar, since this is a basic principle
for deliberative bodies.
-- Ed
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Maggie Clarke
Subject: Re: the manana republic of
Upper Manhattan
2009-07-20 10:34
The next meeting of what? If it's economic development, what the
heck are they talking about this time?
They're supposed to be off for the summer.
At 01:42 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
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Environmental Scientist, Educator
mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu
New York City
They're supposed to be off for the summer.
At 01:42 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
FYI the next meeting is Tues July 29.
Rita L. McKee
447 Fort Washington Avenue
Suite 63
New York, NY 10033
917.526.0050
_________________________
Principal,
RLM Marketing & Advertising
Member,
Community Board 12/Manhattan
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On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:23 AM, "Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D." <mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu > wrote:At the Economic Development CB12 meeting a couple of weeks ago, they did indeed discuss the same restaurant again, but because the 34th precinct did not provide enough information (other than having called Dyckman a bar strip with a concentration of liquor licenses in the 2 block stretch), they tabled it !
At 01:06 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Jonathan Rabinowitz wrote:
> Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the
> spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have
> in Upper Manhattan?
If there is a major change in the question, such as dramatic new
information, it could justify re-hearing an issue.
Otherwise, most organizations that use Robert's Rules of Order would
first require a 2/3 vote on the question of whether to put the item
on the agenda, since the previous majority decision is in effect
being reversed.
I don't know what parliamentary authority is used by the Community Board
but it probably has something similar, since this is a basic principle
for deliberative bodies.
-- Ed
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Rita L. McKee
Subject: Re: the manana republic of Upper Manhattan
2009-07-20 20:53
The CB12 GM.
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Rita L. McKee
447 Fort Washington Avenue
Suite 63
New York, NY 10033
917.526.0050
_________________________
Principal,
RLM Marketing & Advertising
Member,
Community Board 12/Manhattan
The next meeting of what? If it's economic development, what the heck are they talking about this time?
They're supposed to be off for the summer.
At 01:42 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:FYI the next meeting is Tues July 29.
Rita L. McKee
447 Fort Washington Avenue
Suite 63
New York, NY 10033
917.526.0050
_________________________
Principal,
RLM Marketing & Advertising
Member,
Community Board 12/Manhattan
Sent via iPhone
On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:23 AM, "Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D." <mclarke@hunter.cuny.edu > wrote:At the Economic Development CB12 meeting a couple of weeks ago, they did indeed discuss the same restaurant again, but because the 34th precinct did not provide enough information (other than having called Dyckman a bar strip with a concentration of liquor licenses in the 2 block stretch), they tabled it !
At 01:06 PM 7/1/2009, you wrote:On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Jonathan Rabinowitz wrote:
> Isn't returning to the same issue over and over again not in the
> spirit of parliamentary rules? What kind of banana republic do we have
> in Upper Manhattan?
If there is a major change in the question, such as dramatic new
information, it could justify re-hearing an issue.
Otherwise, most organizations that use Robert's Rules of Order would
first require a 2/3 vote on the question of whether to put the item
on the agenda, since the previous majority decision is in effect
being reversed.
I don't know what parliamentary authority is used by the Community Board
but it probably has something similar, since this is a basic principle
for deliberative bodies.
-- Ed
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