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  • Re: Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?

    from Raphael Moeller on 2008-12-04 18:37
    All the streets that cross between W 178 & 179n St are bridges,too.Ft Wash Ave,B'way,Wadsworth Ave,St Nicholas Ave,Audobon Ave and Amsterdam Ave. The 181 St Washington Bridge and the Alexander Hamilton Bridge are also bridges. Think of all the new jobs for toll collectors  (not everyone has E-Z Pass). and the new traffic jams at all th
    
    
    --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...> wrote:
    From: Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...>
    Subject: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?
    To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
    Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:29 PM
    
    Another upper Manhattan issue with the plan...
    
    I haven't seen any mention of whether I95 from the Bronx into Manhattan
    will remain a toll-free route into Manhattan, or if the exits into Manhattan
    will be tolled.  If it remains toll-free, that could result in additional
    traffic diversions to the route with all consequences that would entail.
    
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  • Re: Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?

    from Brad Aaron on 2008-12-04 19:12
    No toll booths. All tolls would be collected electronically through either E-Z
    Pass or license plate readers. 
    
    
    On 2008-12-04 18:37, Raphael Moeller wrote:
    > All the streets that cross between W 178 & 179n St are bridges,too.Ft Wash
    > Ave,B'way,Wadsworth Ave,St Nicholas Ave,Audobon Ave and Amsterdam Ave. The
    > 181 St Washington Bridge and the Alexander Hamilton Bridge are also bridges.
    > Think of all the new jobs for toll collectors  (not everyone has E-Z Pass).
    > and the new traffic jams at all th
    
    > 
    > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...> wrote:
    > From: Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...>
    > Subject: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan
    > from Bronx?
    To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
    > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:29 PM
    > 
    > Another upper Manhattan issue with the plan...
    > 
    > I haven't seen any mention of whether I95 from the Bronx into Manhattan
    > will remain a toll-free route into Manhattan, or if the exits into Manhattan
    > will be tolled.  If it remains toll-free, that could result in additional
    > traffic diversions to the route with all consequences that would entail.
    > 
    > | JEREMY R. GINSBURG
    > | e-mail:  jginsbu@...
    > | "Time goes, you say? Ah no! Alas, Time stays, we go." -H. A. Dobson
    > 
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    • Re: Re: Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?

      from jginsbu on 2008-12-04 19:27
      Indeed.  Although that doesn't address whether the I95 crossing/exits  
      will be tolled.  I'm really surprised I haven't seen this discussed in  
      any of the coverage I've read thusfar.
      
      On 4 Dec 2008, at 19:12, Brad Aaron wrote:
      > No toll booths. All tolls would be collected electronically through  
      > either E-Z
      > Pass or license plate readers.
      >
      > On 2008-12-04 18:37, Raphael Moeller wrote:
      >> All the streets that cross between W 178 & 179n St are  
      >> bridges,too.Ft Wash
      >> Ave,B'way,Wadsworth Ave,St Nicholas Ave,Audobon Ave and Amsterdam  
      >> Ave. The
      >> 181 St Washington Bridge and the Alexander Hamilton Bridge are also  
      >> bridges.
      >> Think of all the new jobs for toll collectors  (not everyone has E- 
      >> Z Pass).
      >> and the new traffic jams at all th
      >>
      >>
      >>> --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...> wrote:
      >>> From: Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...>
      >>> Subject: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Toll exiting I95 into  
      >>> Manhattan
      >>> from Bronx?
      >>> To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
      >>> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:29 PM
      >>>
      >>> Another upper Manhattan issue with the plan...
      >>>
      >>> I haven't seen any mention of whether I95 from the Bronx into  
      >>> Manhattan
      >>> will remain a toll-free route into Manhattan, or if the exits into  
      >>> Manhattan
      >>> will be tolled.  If it remains toll-free, that could result in  
      >>> additional
      >>> traffic diversions to the route with all consequences that would  
      >>> entail.
      
      | JEREMY R. GINSBURG
      | e-mail:  jginsbu@...
      | "Time goes, you say? Ah no! Alas, Time stays, we go." -H. A. Dobson
      
      
      
      
    • Re: Re: Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?

      from Maggie Clarke on 2008-12-05 00:25
      All tolls are never collected electronically.  You always have some
      people who are traveling through from a distance or who don't have credit
      cards.  
      There's a nice healthy discussion here, but I don't see an action
      mechanism.  Is CB12 going to propose an alternative vision for
      northern manhattan tolling?  I'd hate for this to be an academic
      discussion.
      
      At 07:12 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote:
      No toll booths. All tolls would
      be collected electronically through either E-Z
      Pass or license plate readers. 
      
      On 2008-12-04 18:37, Raphael Moeller wrote:
      > All the streets that cross between W 178 & 179n St are
      bridges,too.Ft Wash
      > Ave,B'way,Wadsworth Ave,St Nicholas Ave,Audobon Ave and Amsterdam
      Ave. The
      > 181 St Washington Bridge and the Alexander Hamilton Bridge are also
      bridges.
      > Think of all the new jobs for toll collectors  (not everyone
      has E-Z Pass).
      > and the new traffic jams at all th
      > 
      > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...>
      wrote:
      > From: Jeremy Ginsburg <jginsbu@...>
      > Subject: [Inwood Livable Streets discussion] Toll exiting I95 into
      Manhattan
      > from Bronx?
      To: inwood-livable-streets-discussion@...
      > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:29 PM
      > 
      > Another upper Manhattan issue with the plan...
      > 
      > I haven't seen any mention of whether I95 from the Bronx into
      Manhattan
      > will remain a toll-free route into Manhattan, or if the exits into
      Manhattan
      > will be tolled.  If it remains toll-free, that could result in
      additional
      > traffic diversions to the route with all consequences that would
      entail.
      > 
      > | JEREMY R. GINSBURG
      > | e-mail:  jginsbu@...
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      -H. A. Dobson
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      • Re: Re: Toll exiting I95 into Manhattan from Bronx?

        from jginsbu on 2008-12-05 01:28
        On 5 Dec 2008, at 00:16, Marjorie J. Clarke, Ph.D. wrote:
        > All tolls are never collected electronically.  You always have some  
        > people who are traveling through from a distance or who don't have  
        > credit cards.
        
        
        Yes, some tolls may be collected by post or telephone.  But, according  
        the the Ravitch plan, there will be no toll booths.  Such methods have  
        been used elsewhere with success.
        
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        | "Time goes, you say? Ah no! Alas, Time stays, we go." -H. A. Dobson