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	<title>Comments on: Hoboken Bicycle Plan proposal</title>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-16</guid>
		<description>The bike circulation plan looks great.  As a low-budget apartment dweller, an economical means to store my bicycle is a major concern.  Storage inside my apartment is impossible and, despite the massive basement in my apartment building, the landlord refuses to allow for indoor bicycle storage.  Can bikes be legally chained to permanent structures on public sidewalks?  Would the City offer incentives to landlords who offer on-site bike storage? Is there an inventory of parking garages that also offer secure bicycle storage?  Is it on the Bike Hoboken horizon to plan for publicly accessible, weather-resistant bike parking facilities?  Would the Hoboken Parking Authority proactively reduce overall parking demand by actively facilitiating convenient bicycle use and ownership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bike circulation plan looks great.  As a low-budget apartment dweller, an economical means to store my bicycle is a major concern.  Storage inside my apartment is impossible and, despite the massive basement in my apartment building, the landlord refuses to allow for indoor bicycle storage.  Can bikes be legally chained to permanent structures on public sidewalks?  Would the City offer incentives to landlords who offer on-site bike storage? Is there an inventory of parking garages that also offer secure bicycle storage?  Is it on the Bike Hoboken horizon to plan for publicly accessible, weather-resistant bike parking facilities?  Would the Hoboken Parking Authority proactively reduce overall parking demand by actively facilitiating convenient bicycle use and ownership?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the next 10 - 20 years NYC is expecting to grow by 1 million or so.  It is naive to think Hoboken wont be impacted by this.  Already, NYC is has brought there number of bike lanes including park space to 620 miles.  Obviously, congestion is not good for anyone and investing in alternate forms of transportation is good for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the next 10 - 20 years NYC is expecting to grow by 1 million or so.  It is naive to think Hoboken wont be impacted by this.  Already, NYC is has brought there number of bike lanes including park space to 620 miles.  Obviously, congestion is not good for anyone and investing in alternate forms of transportation is good for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-13</guid>
		<description>I am in support.  Unfortunately my bike commute does not use these corridors.  As Andy B noted Washington Street will not have bike lane marked either.  However, that is not the point.  The town will only mark lanes where there is room.  

The main idea is to SHARE THE ROAD.  Bikers can ride on ALL roads.  We as bikers and Hoboken residents just want cars to expect to see us and pay more attention.

I admit I push right-of-way as a pedestrian and biker in a convoluted effort to shake up drivers into being more cautious.  So if the town will put money toward a bike friendly driving culture, I'm happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in support.  Unfortunately my bike commute does not use these corridors.  As Andy B noted Washington Street will not have bike lane marked either.  However, that is not the point.  The town will only mark lanes where there is room.  </p>
<p>The main idea is to SHARE THE ROAD.  Bikers can ride on ALL roads.  We as bikers and Hoboken residents just want cars to expect to see us and pay more attention.</p>
<p>I admit I push right-of-way as a pedestrian and biker in a convoluted effort to shake up drivers into being more cautious.  So if the town will put money toward a bike friendly driving culture, I&#8217;m happy.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-10</guid>
		<description>i love this plan if hoboken can really make it work. i just started biking to the path station from 14th street and while riding on hudson is nice in the morning riding back has been a challenge on any road. i don't understand why the city wouldn't enforce stricter traffic controls, more tickets = more revenue. i think part of making hoboken even more livable would be to remove as much street parking as possible by investing in underground municipal parking and requiring all new construction to build parking into the building and allowing a portion of it for municipal parking. i wouldn't mind paying more for a parking permit if i knew i had a guaranteed spot in a garage that didn't cost as much as my rent. great first step tho. lets see how long this actually takes now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this plan if hoboken can really make it work. i just started biking to the path station from 14th street and while riding on hudson is nice in the morning riding back has been a challenge on any road. i don&#8217;t understand why the city wouldn&#8217;t enforce stricter traffic controls, more tickets = more revenue. i think part of making hoboken even more livable would be to remove as much street parking as possible by investing in underground municipal parking and requiring all new construction to build parking into the building and allowing a portion of it for municipal parking. i wouldn&#8217;t mind paying more for a parking permit if i knew i had a guaranteed spot in a garage that didn&#8217;t cost as much as my rent. great first step tho. lets see how long this actually takes now.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-9</guid>
		<description>great 1st step! any doubters should look at the successes they have had in Seattle and San Francisco. Some people can't fathom why change would be good until they actually do change... then they can't figure out why they waited so long. It's like when children discover that peas actually are not so bad!

-S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great 1st step! any doubters should look at the successes they have had in Seattle and San Francisco. Some people can&#8217;t fathom why change would be good until they actually do change&#8230; then they can&#8217;t figure out why they waited so long. It&#8217;s like when children discover that peas actually are not so bad!</p>
<p>-S</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-8</guid>
		<description>I'm not super familiar with Hoboken but I do find it interesting that Washington St is not designated to get a bike lane but will get a little more than half of the new bike racks.  This leads me to assume that this is the main commercial strip in town.  So how are cyclists supposed to get to these racks to go do there shopping?  Teleportation?

Hopefully the success of this program once it is initiated will force the city to correct this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not super familiar with Hoboken but I do find it interesting that Washington St is not designated to get a bike lane but will get a little more than half of the new bike racks.  This leads me to assume that this is the main commercial strip in town.  So how are cyclists supposed to get to these racks to go do there shopping?  Teleportation?</p>
<p>Hopefully the success of this program once it is initiated will force the city to correct this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-7</guid>
		<description>It's an excellent proposal, but it must be accompanied by traffic/parking enforcement.  None of this will work in Hoboken unless enforcement of parking actually takes place in Hoboken.  Which, unfortunately, by all indications looks like it will never happen.  Most importantly is vehicles parked too close to the curb.  There does not exist clear markings on Hoboken street corners.  You have yellow painted curbs and typically two additional white spray painted lines.  How do drivers no what is the actual proper distance from the curb.  First, we need clear curb lines, not little white spray pained lines in the middle of yellow painted curb.  Next, you need enforcement of these areas.  Vehicles, pedestrians and bycyclists are all presented with the same problem.  We all have to creep out to a dangerous exposed position in order to identify on-coming traffic.  In my vehicle I cannot see the cross street traffic if I stay behind the cross walk.  I have to creep up to a position where I am blocking the cross-walk to see, which makes it dangerous for everyone else.  Next is the enforcement of double parking.  Let's be completely honest here; it's selective enforcement.  Social clubs do not have to obey such laws.  If residents take the initiative and call the parking utility or police they ask if you are personally blocked in.  If not, there is no response.  As an earlier post described, it is too dangerous to bike on the back streets such as Madison if double parking is not enforced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an excellent proposal, but it must be accompanied by traffic/parking enforcement.  None of this will work in Hoboken unless enforcement of parking actually takes place in Hoboken.  Which, unfortunately, by all indications looks like it will never happen.  Most importantly is vehicles parked too close to the curb.  There does not exist clear markings on Hoboken street corners.  You have yellow painted curbs and typically two additional white spray painted lines.  How do drivers no what is the actual proper distance from the curb.  First, we need clear curb lines, not little white spray pained lines in the middle of yellow painted curb.  Next, you need enforcement of these areas.  Vehicles, pedestrians and bycyclists are all presented with the same problem.  We all have to creep out to a dangerous exposed position in order to identify on-coming traffic.  In my vehicle I cannot see the cross street traffic if I stay behind the cross walk.  I have to creep up to a position where I am blocking the cross-walk to see, which makes it dangerous for everyone else.  Next is the enforcement of double parking.  Let&#8217;s be completely honest here; it&#8217;s selective enforcement.  Social clubs do not have to obey such laws.  If residents take the initiative and call the parking utility or police they ask if you are personally blocked in.  If not, there is no response.  As an earlier post described, it is too dangerous to bike on the back streets such as Madison if double parking is not enforced.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-6</guid>
		<description>"Jack" - You don't have to look very far to find a counter-example to your assertion that "there is just not room". New York City has much more traffic than Hoboken, yet they're making it work. There are many, many other similar examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jack&#8221; - You don&#8217;t have to look very far to find a counter-example to your assertion that &#8220;there is just not room&#8221;. New York City has much more traffic than Hoboken, yet they&#8217;re making it work. There are many, many other similar examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Gas</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Gas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a stupid idea. Have you noticed how hard it is to enforce people from double parking their cars in this town? There is no room in this town as it is for delivery trucks to drive through let alone make a path for bikes. It sounds like it would be nice but lets get real. This town is a 5lb bag with 50lb of crap in it, there is just not room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a stupid idea. Have you noticed how hard it is to enforce people from double parking their cars in this town? There is no room in this town as it is for delivery trucks to drive through let alone make a path for bikes. It sounds like it would be nice but lets get real. This town is a 5lb bag with 50lb of crap in it, there is just not room.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kruimer</title>
		<link>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Kruimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/#comment-4</guid>
		<description>The bicycle plan looks GREAT! plenty of flow in all directions. Remember that we (bicyclists) MUST obey the rules of the road if we want to be respected as users of the road. The more bicyclists and walkers that use the roads, the more visable we will become and the better to be respected as bonefied users of the road.
I walk the walk! I ride to work 7 miles each day and stop at red lights, slow down and look before proceeding at stop signs, and slow down to the posted speed limit when I have to.
Act like a vehicle on the road and you will be respected as one.
Just watch out for those that have no respect for anyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bicycle plan looks GREAT! plenty of flow in all directions. Remember that we (bicyclists) MUST obey the rules of the road if we want to be respected as users of the road. The more bicyclists and walkers that use the roads, the more visable we will become and the better to be respected as bonefied users of the road.<br />
I walk the walk! I ride to work 7 miles each day and stop at red lights, slow down and look before proceeding at stop signs, and slow down to the posted speed limit when I have to.<br />
Act like a vehicle on the road and you will be respected as one.<br />
Just watch out for those that have no respect for anyone!</p>
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